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Hi, I'm looking to clear some items. No time for this hobby anymore.. Shure E500: Bought it when it first came out, slightly less than a year. In mint condition.. Comes with all original accessories. Retail is selling for around $600-700. Asking price: $500. SuperMacro V6 (SOLD) iRiver H120 (SOLD) Beyer DT880 (SOLD) All prices are negotiable. Interested buyers, PM me if you need more details regarding any of the items. I will get back to you ASAP.

Wah.. Ryoko Hirosue fan huh? I like her too! Hmm.. even if I order now I think I gonna get it only after CNY...

Wow.. nice! When did you order and receive it? I heard quite a lot of backorders piled up..

This is an interconnect, used to connect mp3 players and amps. So basically.. Headphone out => interconnect => LDM+ => earphones OR Line out => interconnect => LDM+ => earphones

It doesn't run on batteries right?

We need more of such productive contribution.

Interesting. His identify not disclosed though... But I briefly read about it in HWZ before too..

Go straight to the ER4P.. save yourself the upgrade next time..

Oh well.. the rest of your queries were answered by SE. I shall just quote these from your reply. Is there anything wrong with a Westone dealer pointing out 'so called' UM56 that wasn't? So Westone shld go every forum and browse through every post? Earlier on when SE posted about this issue, some were saying he shld have concrete evidence before making such allegations, asking him to check his facts and not who shld be the one making this statement. If you bothered to read you'll notice the mention of business ethics. Anyway to sum it all up, the use of the word "imitation" was partly due to misunderstanding of the original custom tip review. Even till now I do not know whether the custom tips are from Westone or not but that isn't the point here, cos I am not in the position to fault either dealer. If you are fine with your custom tips then so be it. If I bought an iPod thinking it was by Apple, but later turned out to be a similar looking MP3 player which wasn't by Apple, I'll be pissed off even if it's very much usable like an Apple iPod. Of course there are others who are perfectly fine with it, as long as it functions well. Even so, there's still a need to warn other members, members who are looking to buy UM56 by Westone and not other brands.

No offence to Jaben here, but when Jaben was offering special promotions or special discounts for SGHP members everyone was simply raving about the low prices. I see most members claiming that they got a sweet deal from Jaben and very satisfied with it, and that happened when there were 2 dealers ard in this forum. Then is that a case of undercutting the other dealer? When one dealer got banned the other dealer tried to provide us with the same low prices that consumers want. In addition he made a point about a supposedly UM56 which turned out otherwise. Instead of raving about it, his intent and business ethics was questioned. I see many people viewing all these negatively, which is rather bad for this hobby. I guess the only thing SE can do to please people is to raise his prices and keep everything to himself, even when consumers are unknowingly paying for something else. Rather than trying to pinpoint on what this thread is all about, which is the UM56, and trying to get the truth from what or why this actually happened, most people are bashing SE instead. I see no one discussing about the so called UM56 and their source. It's easy for everyone to judge why this happened.

It's tough moderating a forum..

Interesting.. First time I see comments about bad business ethics for offering cost savings to consumer. I have nothing against Jaben, even now I still find Jaben prices competitive. I patronise both shops and I don't see anything wrong with either one having their own promotions. You go there and if you are happy with the service and price then a deal is done. You can even think of it in another way if you want. Let's say SE was able to offer a lower price for the ES2 a long time ago but refrained from doing so cos he didn't want to undercut Jaben? It's up to you to judge. Do you really mean no one can sell the ES2 in this forum at a lower price than Jaben after Jaben got banned? Anyone caught doing so is considered unscroupulous? When SE first mentioned about UM56 imitations everyone was confidently bashing him for being ignorant about the so called one-off custom tips. However ppl began to realise that those may not really be the UM56 by Westone from his email exchanges with Westone. Now he is being accused of not bothering to clarify matters before making that post, but the fact was that he did clarified with Westone before making that statement. From a neutral point of view I feel SE shld be given credit for sharing with us what he knows and pointing this out. Instead he was being labeled as someone with bad business ethics and his intent questioned. I see everyone trying to put him down, rather than agree with what he's doing, and I really don't understand why. If you had unknowingly bought a so called fake iPod from China and someone pointed it out to you, would you say things like "I'm OK with it, it works exactly like the original" or would you be pissed off? I believe ppl will have different opinions about this, but at the end of the day, it's important to let consumers know what they are getting out of the deal. That is what I call business ethics. I hope no one feels offended by this. In the event that SE made a mistake about the custom tips he owes everyone an apology. Meanwhile, give him credit for pointing that out too..

I understand your point questioning his intent, since he is an audio dealer too. Ppl here shld be able to judge themselves. Not to worry, I believe there'll be clarifications soon.

Well, SE got his replies about the imitations from Westone. You can see his email exchanges with Westone too. He only mentioned those in the pics are not UM56 but imitations and nothing else. You think he should just warn ppl of imitations but do nothing to prove himself, just because it could make ppl question his own intent? Or should he ask someone else to contact Westone instead, since his words carry no weight at all because he's a dealer? I'm still skeptical of this fiasco of course. I don't believe it 100% either and I hope there can be clarifications rather than just bashings. You may think I'm jumping to his defense, but from a 3rd party point of view, I believe it's right to inform the masses, since the emails exchanges with Westone is enough to make a point. However, if he made a mistake about this, an apology should be due too.

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