katopunk 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2006 Hie all. I'm not sure if I've posted in the right subforum or not. Seems like I couldn't find any dedicated EMU0404 thread around. I have a question for u guys. Basically it's about the dangerous dc offset value. General question, does most marketed speaker sets amp have output coupling caps for eliminate the dc offset? I'm planning to mod my EMU0404 card. The early stage I'll be removing the coupling caps and the buffer opamps. Then I'll replace the output opamp with OPA2227. Now the thing I'm worried about is the dc offset value that could fry my Aego2. Any forummer with a modded EMU0404 and Aego2? Please advice. Thanks in advance. Merci, katopunk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squalle 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2006 wat about, just mod it, then measure the DC if let's say it puts out something very high (in terms of volt already, mV range dun need to bother) then put some film caps to block DC. you dont need high capacitance as your active (i assume) AEgo2 should have rather high input impedance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huangyong 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2006 most active speakers should have coupling caps, tt's my experience, could have exception. good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katopunk 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2006 huangyong. thanks for the input. u said most. but i'm still not that convince yet. Aego2 + modded EMU0404, anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huangyong 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2006 open the speaker and see, or u should just measure the input impedance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katopunk 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2006 wat about, just mod it, then measure the DC if let's say it puts out something very high (in terms of volt already, mV range dun need to bother) then put some film caps to block DC. you dont need high capacitance as your active (i assume) AEgo2 should have rather high input impedance. Errmm. actually i'm a electronic noob. Modding my emu0404 is my 1st step. Does the high input impedance have anything related to the dc offset? huangyong, you said i should measure the speaker input impedance. i'm kinda can you further advice? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siriuz 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2006 don't fry your card. good luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katopunk 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2006 (edited) don't fry your card. good luck i'm not afraid of frying my card resulting from bad soldering or whatsoever. what i'm worrying about is frying my speaker sets. edited:typo Edited April 18, 2006 by katopunk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siriuz 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2006 if i were you i'd really be more worried about frying the card than frying the speakers 'cause as squalle mentioned, dc offset can be tested for with a multimeter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squalle 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2006 (edited) katopunk, you not only need luck, but a proper set of tools correct tooling will help you by a lot have you got any rig to clamp the card then, magnifying glass if necessary iron with correct size ADD: a good multimeter too ADD: a good pair of tweezers, one size or a few when necessary and also, how fast and how steady ur hands are? normally, those cards are quite packed. you might be able to desolder the caps properly, but might destroy other parts of the card if you accidentally touch here n there but then, who am I to teach you just another noob Edited April 18, 2006 by squalle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katopunk 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2006 ok.. job done. DC offset measured is 225mV and 320mV. i consulted someone, and he said it's safe for a speaker sets to have less than 1V. and for headphones, less than 300mV. THanks all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huangyong 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2006 it's still quite high dude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squalle 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2006 try measure at the port to speakers and report back again here btw, congratz to have done it safely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katopunk 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2006 (edited) try measure at the port to speakers and report back again here btw, congratz to have done it safely the DC offset i reported in my previous post was from the speaker sats RCA port. meaning the card is connected to the speaker. edited:typo Edited April 20, 2006 by katopunk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squalle 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2006 oh good then 200mV is OK the 200mV might be due to the op-amp at EMU side or might be due to the AEgo active amplification module can you please measure the EMU output? wat's the DC offset there I expect some amount there as you're using 2227 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites