Morgan Wu 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2008 Lol, i guess its interest. And cant bear to see so many wires lying around unused. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mouz 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 Neutrik jacks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morgan Wu 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 Mouz, you mean you want to get Neutrik plugs too or are you correcting something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vii_haven 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 Ok there's something i don't understand here, maybe someone can help me with it. A TRS (stereo jack) has the tip, ring and sleeve which translates to the left channel, right channel and the ground right? So i've noticed some cables using 4 strands of wire instead of 3 (eg. 2 silver and 2 copper). So how are they wired then? Silver on the audio channels and copper on the grounds? Or the other way round? Is there somethign i'm missing here? Thanks for the help! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morgan Wu 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 You are right, there should only be 3 strands. I have not opened up a ALO LOD before, but i believe 2 strands lead to the ground. So the configuration is 1 for left, 1 for right, and 2 for ground. Exactly how this affects the sound i do not know, i am having a friend of mine who owns a UE11 to compare them. There should be a review soon. PS: I find it strange to use different materials for different channels. This is because things would not be balanced this way. Imagine using silver for R,L and copper for G. How will this benefit the sound? And if the talk is about combining silver and copper qualities, isnt it more logical to use silver+copper for L,R and G respectively? Then you will end up with a 6 wire braid. Wow. Nice idea, i should try that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heady 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 PS: I find it strange to use different materials for different channels. This is because things would not be balanced this way. Imagine using silver for R,L and copper for G. How will this benefit the sound? I understand some people believe the signal should travel to the transducer (driver) via silver and the return signal should be over copper. Me? I am cable agnostic. Give me a nice copper cable and I am happy. After all, in a circuit board, the traces are so thin and they are copper. The wires in the headphone drivers are copper. Using anything else just changes the sound. I stick to copper and select the other components, ie. headphones and amps, to fit my taste. Sorry for spoiling the talk of cables. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kookie 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 I understand some people believe the signal should travel to the transducer (driver) via silver and the return signal should be over copper. Me? I am cable agnostic. Give me a nice copper cable and I am happy. After all, in a circuit board, the traces are so thin and they are copper. The wires in the headphone drivers are copper. Using anything else just changes the sound. I stick to copper and select the other components, ie. headphones and amps, to fit my taste. Sorry for spoiling the talk of cables. ah in that case, you should try vampires cables.. , i like it better than any other silver lods or hybrid ics i've made.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morgan Wu 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 Haha, each person is entitled to their own opinion. I was like you too. My opinion changed when once i tried to be funny and used some wires savaged from my old com to make the LOD. The result is that it sounded like sh*t. But i think the difference gets very insignificant as you go up "there" too, like me, the wires i am using right now is pretty good already. I cant differentiate between silver and copper wires, but my friend claim he can. Haha. Dun worry, you didnt spoil anything. The chat is to bring people with the same opinions together, and to listen to other people's opinion at the same time. Overall its plain fun to DIY, and LODs become more like pieces of art to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alvin1118 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 (edited) cable kindof thing is really subjective...if u study the material used in transducer, PCB, etc etc.. fascinating cable is really doesn't make much sense improving over it. I happened to meet some audiophile in the past. well, some of them hates silver, they insist that OFC is still the best in audio. hmm, enjoy music, find what your ears love the most; that's the only path to most of us i guess Edited November 17, 2008 by alvin1118 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morgan Wu 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2008 Now talking about Vampire cables, you all brought the big ones and strip them to get to the individual strands is it? Which wire you all use? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fiiophile Report post Posted November 17, 2008 Anybody knows where to get non-stiff wires? Been hunting for them. Currently, I only know Silver wires from Koba are not that stiff. Their Silver Plated ones are horribly stiff. I'm doing recabling. This picture shows how stiff they are.. They just stays in the air. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morgan Wu 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2008 I asked the guy who recabled his UE with silver wires on another thread, but no responses from him. Have you tried stranded wires instead of solid cores? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fiiophile Report post Posted November 18, 2008 I asked the guy who recabled his UE with silver wires on another thread, but no responses from him. Have you tried stranded wires instead of solid cores? Not yet. I ready to recable it with ES2 cables... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morgan Wu 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2008 (edited) Muahahaha, just got my soldering station today from Farnell, see what a beauty it is. Unopened... Inside~ The iron itself. The station.. My workspace. Warming up... And one big pack of Neutrik plugs!! Btw, anyone know what is the exact composition of Switchcraft plugs? Edited November 18, 2008 by Morgan Wu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kookie 0 Report post Posted November 18, 2008 Muahahaha, just got my soldering station today from Farnell, see what a beauty it is. Unopened... Inside~ The iron itself. The station.. My workspace. Warming up... And one big pack of Neutrik plugs!! Btw, anyone know what is the exact composition of Switchcraft plugs? thats one nice soldering docking station.. looks heavy though.. xD.. how much did that costs you? btw, anyone know where i can get R Angle Switch craft 3.5mm jacks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites