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And here's the best of Edifier, in one sense anyway - though the H850 has a more classic neutral bass, both the H840 and H850 share an excellent midrange and treble. But should you prefer the warmer bass, say, half to 2/3 the strength of a v-moda M100, at 1/6 the price of the M100, here for your consideration is the H840: http://www.hifiheadphones.co.uk/community/threads/edifier-h840-around-ear-budget-audiophile-stereo-headphone-review.4332/