HellDemon

thx and about that, through your experiences of the e3's (same/similar build design as the e4's), you've come to alot of troubles there.... I have an extention cord that has a straight plug.... It's only about 20cm long so it won't make much of a difference in cord length..... the problem is, I don't know how long the cords are and if that extra 20cm will make it worse =/ (my height is soemthing around 5'11 or so) welcome to tis forum then......didnt know u r not local (SG)...since u dun have access to the earphones, perhaps u can let us know ur choice of music, ur music player and listening habits...then we can advise u better cheers! xllms yeah i listen to music FREQUENTLY, just about every time i step outa the house and that's why comfort is a big deal to me, but the price of comfort, could be the fact that i get run over by a car when walking down the street <_______< and thx everyone but see, because of the non-removable wire on the e4's/all of shure's models, i stepped down from buying the e4's..... sure the build quality, looks, and wires may be all sturdier and better then the SF5's, but the fact doesn't change that I would eventually ruin the plug =/... So all because of that 1 little cord problem that i have with basically all my earphones (i ruined a pair of e3's in less then 2 months because of that ), i can't choose between the 2 this is what makes it so hard lol although i could use my short little extention cord, im still not sure how long the E4's wires are =/ the SF5's are about 46" if im not mistaken and that should be fine

yeah but the problem is, i don't live where you guys do.... im a foreigner im from canada eh?* (toronto) and there aren't really any stores that are like that.... and i've never seen 1 person with higher-end earbuds, let alone even mid-ranged... *is living in canada something that can get me banned here? o.O seeing as your SG Headphones, and not CDA Headphones

Yeah I have some mixed feelings about this.... I've seen reviews that say SF5 is better overall, and other reviews say that the E4c's are... I don't really mind the cost since there isn't much of a difference between the 2 (approximately $50 if im not mistaken). I want comfort and that would lean me against the E4c side, but I also don't want to get hit by a car, so that evens it out... People say that the E4c's have a better overall sound distribution, but is not so balanced between the bass as the SF5's... (I like clarity more i.e. treble) But the reason I won't choose the E4c's right off the bat is because I've ruined a pair of E3c's and a few other IEM's because of the right angled plug.... Because the iPod's design (and probably all other mp3 players), the plug turns, and after a while, it would end up engraving a line throughout the whole plug, ruining it (either making it unusable in 1 ear or both.... happened to me abillion times). And because of the SF5's removable (but alot less sturdier) cord, I can't really choose between the 2. Any advice??

I naturally listen to earphones almost all the time when I listen to music, since I always have my mp3 players with me regardless of the occasion. But I use my speakers when I jus want to listen to something in high definition (7.1 speaker set, x-fi elite). If im studying for something or doing something else and I don't want to have my computer on (because of the CPU fan, i don't have any other fans cuz of liquid cooling), then I just use portable speakers.