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you could try the ATH-ESW9 unamped has clarity but hmm not sure whether you will like it according to your genre. stereo currently having promo, spring a few hundred more and you could get the ATH-ES10 also on promo at stereo

as usual...stereo at either causeway point or plaza singapura...? but their site dun put, it's JVC I believe?

Hi all, Just wondering if anyone is using ATH-ES10 with any amp and what's the effect like? Would like to know since receiving ATH-ES10 soon =)

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lol around $200 i don't know what to recommend...I bypass this region le, now using ATH-ESW9, not so all rounder so getting ES10...hoping to sell my ATH-ES7 at $90 cheap cheap, it's quite good, coloured all rounder headphone bought it at $199, then stereo now selling at $249 Oo

you are welcomed, so what type of music you listen to and what type of headphones you looking for? Best is you go down stereo and audition ba...causeway point and plaza singapura also can

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/477307/m50s-vs-ws70s http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/466594...ws70-vs-ath-es7 http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/484414...s70-info-anyone

Alrightz, at one point, I was in possession of both the fake and genuine ATH-ESW9. The first difference is the box: The white text on the box is broken up as in it's not very solid, feels like it is flakking off. Secondly on the box, the gold text is 'too golden' Lastly, the stick on black sticker at the back of the box is different, kinda hard to describe, the only way to compare is to compare to another ATH series. I had the ATH-ES7 to compare with. Pictures will not show any difference. On to the headphone itself, the first and most obvious difference is the wood on the cans, off out of the box, it's too red, not the deep rich dark red colour, over time, the fake ATH-ESW9 will actually develop into the same colour!! So this is not a very good gauge but no problem, there's more! 2nd difference, there's a sorta matte coating (for a lack of better description) on the genuine ATH-ESW9. The fake has the wood exposed to the air, sorta like a wooden table without coating. 3rd difference, there are wooden scratches on the fake ones, not sure if it's just mine but if u see grain scratches, it's fake. The last defining difference: if you remove the earpads and look into the headphone, the copper coil is silver for the fake and blue for the genuine. But of course, this is just my own experience for the fake I got and had it refunded, there might be other manufacturers who make even more better fake ones. In the end, the litmus test is your ears, if you find no problems with it then...you don't deserve the real one But of course, you can't really tell the difference within the first 5 mins of testing (which was what I did), listen to it for 20 mins and you may feel like me: tearing it off my ears and stomping it into the ground, soundstage was narrow, messy in the treble though bass is powerful. Best way to avoid fakes: support local shops and get from authorised dealers like Jaben or Stereo etc. Currently proud owner of ATH-ESW9 and ATH-ES10 coming to me from japan courtesy of a friend

AKG 412P if you can ever find it aha.

http://www.phing.com/listing/439566-...hnica-ATH-ESW9 looks suspiciously like fake ones: http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/...nd-from-paypal http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/...-9-56k-warning

Wow ok. that's a lot of work done. I just need to replace the 3.5mm plug since the wires are loose...

what damage was it?

ha...i thought if i can get it cheaply repair i can sell off my ATH-ES7 cos my omniaHD doesn't really sound that awesome as compared to my now sold cowon players =(

i live up north. the price of a new AKG 412P IS 50 plus.

just to bump up this thread, my akg 412p wire is loose at the joint, warranty over, how much do you guys think it will cost for it to be serviced? called their service center but they say bring it down so they can take a look before they quote me...