today tried the es7 n ath-a500 at jaben, find that both the sounds to be on the warm side, also tried many other headphones esp more of the beyerdynamic ones since mostly these were on the display, generally felt that the Open cans sound were more to my liking that the Closed ones, the sounds were more neutral and not as warm, also like the valour-paddings headphones than those with the pleather types, however in the end didnt buy anything yet, becoz i felt havent tried all the popular ones yet, esp the ms1 havent tried at the shop becoz it was out of stock, but quite liked the beyerdynamic dt231, quite clear sounds with good bass too, strangely when hear the display set which was the older model of dt231 which sounded very good, but then when hear the newer model dt231-galaxy from a newly opened box it didnt sound as good, didnt know that the burn-in sound could be so diffferent....so considering wat to get, will decide until i try the ms1 first....