LaoMao 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2004 Honestly, I prefer and listen to my K66 much more than my Grado SR60 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stopme 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2004 i'd say the grado sr60/80 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aloozer 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2005 err..sorry ah..got a noob question can the grado sr60 can be plugged into computer soundcard(creative live) the output port behind??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evil-zen 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2005 yes i believe both use the mini jacks. just turn down the volume to the minimum before plugging in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aloozer 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2005 but for normal PC usage, the amp is not necessary right? as in, the computer is powerful enough to drive the grados to a loud enough volume right? but as i understand, the amp does itself have some uses on its own...e.g making the sound output clearer? correct me where i'm wrong.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aloozer 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2005 got the sr60 ...for clarity no doubt it rocks and its able to pick up loose sounds in the background. but when it comes to bass, i dont find anything quite fantastic about it. not boomy. think i'm prolly gonna get flamed for saying that.. anyway, in the process of burning-in ...hope to see better performance after the burn-in. out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonTheMan 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2005 Yes, the computer is more than enough to drive the Grados. You don't really need an amp actually to drive the Grados cause it is a low impedence headphone. Whether the amp will make the sound output clearer depends on the numerous factors. There are cases where users amped their portable players line out and found the output from the unamped headphone jack vs the amped line out to be not much of a difference! Basically the amplifier will increase the gain and alter the characteristic of the music because of the different circuitry present. As for the Grados bass, it is definitely present. But for those who prefer more bass, there are other headphones out there that will give you the thump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mackie 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 (edited) I beg to differ. Low impedance cans benefit from dedicated amplification as much as high impedance cans although need for an amp is relatively less pressing for the former. The main benefit of amplification is higher gain and lower noise floor, which duly contributes to greater transparency, details and improved subtle nuances of the music. Even a humble Koss ear clip benefits from amplification. However, GIGO - garbage in, garbage out, applies. A portable's less-than-true line-out (simply tapped from headphone-out curcuit), is one of many but a major factor if the amplified signal is left wanting in terms of quality. Trace down-stream to the amp and cans if source quality is good. In addition, signal from headphone sockets of cdps, portables, amps etc are all amplified. The question is quality of amplification. Edited March 24, 2005 by Mackie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonTheMan 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 I tend to agree with you that the Koss KSC series will improve with amplication in this case. But in relation to the question at hand, I stand by what I said, which is that he will not benefit much from using an amp with his Grado and computer combination. Just MHO, that's all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
augustineRS 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 I wont comment much on the quality of amp/unamp-ed Grados.each to his own 'ears' The biggest problem with listen straight out from a soundcard headphone out, esp on-board soundcard, tend to have alot of electric noise(?). The reason i use an amp,with the line out jack, is more of filtering out those noise.(Initially i thought it will amplified it, but it sort of 'clean' it up)YMMV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mackie 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 In which case, he has to give it a try although I never favour pc as a source and as such, I couldn't adopt a strong conviction that an amp will benefit his system. However, I personally own a Grado SR80 and it sounds better with any respectable amp driven by a good source. Hence, it all boils down to system make-up and synergy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mackie 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 The reason i use an amp,with the line out jack, is more of filtering out those noise.(Initially i thought it will amplified it, but it sort of 'clean' it up)YMMV A boon of earlier mentioned improved signal-to-noise ratio ie. lower noise floor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aloozer 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 I wont comment much on the quality of amp/unamp-ed Grados.each to his own 'ears' The biggest problem with listen straight out from a soundcard headphone out, esp on-board soundcard, tend to have alot of electric noise(?). The reason i use an amp,with the line out jack, is more of filtering out those noise.(Initially i thought it will amplified it, but it sort of 'clean' it up)YMMV electric noise? u mean static noise? I'm using the Creative Audigy soundcard..fitted into 1 of the PCI slots if i'm not wrong..so its not considered as on-board soundcard right? anyway...i dont have the static noises... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
augustineRS 0 Report post Posted March 24, 2005 PCI slot u wont have that issue i guess. I tried mine with an onboard, so u can figure wat kind of noise goes into my ears. I think is called static noise(man, and im doing a course in engineering... ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonTheMan 0 Report post Posted March 25, 2005 In which case, he has to give it a try although I never favour pc as a source and as such, I couldn't adopt a strong conviction that an amp will benefit his system. However, I personally own a Grado SR80 and it sounds better with any respectable amp driven by a good source. Hence, it all boils down to system make-up and synergy. During the time when I got my SR60, MBD did not have stock for the SR80. Actually wanted to do a comparison and perhaps get the SR80, with the intention of getting an amp in the future. But unfortunately, they did not have stock of the SR80, and I thus ended up with the SR60 instead. But I do love my Grado! Understand that the SR80 would do better with an amped source. Is that correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites