pchong 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2006 (edited) Hi all, am new here...just bought an MS-1 from Jaben...and using with Zen Vision. Am wondering if I should get an amp...but would require a portable one. Of course, looking and reading would seem PA2V2 or a Super Micro would be a good choice...but don't have opportunity to audition. What do you guys recommend? Also, the Vision has a line out via a plug at the side...think this would be better sound rather than headphone output into amp? Thanks, and cheers. Edited August 9, 2006 by pchong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dle4e_2005 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2006 (edited) how abt LDM+???? it is cheap and have a beautiful casing..... http://www.sgheadphones.net/index.php?showtopic=5302 or Xenos RHP and Xenos REP ??? http://www.sgheadphones.net/index.php?showtopic=5148 http://www.sgheadphones.net/index.php?showtopic=5130 Edited August 9, 2006 by dle4e_2005 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchong 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2006 (edited) thanks, i just signed up for the LDM+ MO. But would still appreciate if anyone has comments on line out vs headphone out. Also, for the LDM+, when i get it, I guess I should try both modes to see what I prefer...but anybody have any guidance now? Edited August 9, 2006 by pchong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchong 0 Report post Posted August 13, 2006 wah, nobody use Zen Vision meh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scanfiend 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2006 I could be wrong, but strictly speaking, a signal from a line-out is unamped and free from any sound effects like bass-boost, EQ & volume settings applied on the player. That should be the case, since the line-out is supposed to bypass the opamp circuits on the player. Connecting from a line-out to the amp is the most ideal. Unfortunately, most DAP's do not have a line-out jack. For those that do, most of the "line-outs" are not truly line-outs (in the strictest sense of the word), because the signal out is still coloured by whatever EQ and volume settings used on the player. I have a Vision:M, and I use my amp through the headphone jack. Although the Vision:M has a so-called "line-out" via the dongle, what is does is simply blast the signal out at MAX VOLUME. It overwhelms the input on my amp, and I can only turn the volume knob by JUST A LITTLE, before the volume becomes too loud. Subtle it ain't I certainly hope the Vision has a dedicated line-out circuit, but given the lack of it in its flagship Vision:M, I am not hopeful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchong 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2006 Thanks Scanfield. The Vision does have a dedicated line out, which dongles into 3 x RCA - for video. This was provided to connect the Vision to a TV to playback video etc. I think the Vision is a higher end model than the Vision:M...given both ate 30GB, and the Vision is more expensive, so I am hopeful...now S$499 vs S$625. How can I find out if it is a true line out or just a headphone out at full blast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scanfiend 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2006 Wait....I thought you meant the Zen V! Anyway, the Zen Vision (what's with all this confusing naming? ) is a PMP right? Please let me know how it goes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchong 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2006 ya, the Vision which is a PMP...I use it mainly for audio...rippind DVDs are a chore! I also use the convenient CF slot for photos directly from my Canon gear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites