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Silver interconnects, now thats up my alley. www.geocities.com/overmindxx sells silver wires for like, $5-8 per meter. A 1m pair of three run braided silver interconnects (ala KCAG) will need 6m. So that's $50-70 including the teflon tubing he also sells.

Mackie, Any predictions for aussie dollar? Its stable and rises slightly but with the aggravation of SARS in SE Asia it made the AU dollar rise very steadily and there aren't signs of it stopping!!! *feels the heart pain everytime parents send slightly more n more money just to ensure he has the same amount every month*

tee, Just commenting on that someone else did the same as the quoted reviewer but with Bit88. Very hard to tell if the Musicalizer & bit88 are the same. Send me both i open up and tell u. Chances are the musicalizer and bit88 might sound better and definitely wont do worse than the X-Cans. Dunno fi they sound alike.

Tee, I think they are $600+ now... box includes sub n sats, tiny lil stands for wall mounting and seperate cables thats it. Stands are seperate probably very ex.

Tee, Wait ar, im still halfway thru Rich Dad Poor Dad...

Mackie, Tee is around about the impending armies of indian & chinese IT professionals thou... must diversify... branch out.. Hmmm Education can be quite like Investing eh!

Tee, Hifi i can make myself. No worries It's other things about singapore than turn me off, but i cant comment any further.

Audio, That Gameboy cum in flight movies thingy on the back of each seat? Hung twice whilst I was using it!

tee, I hope to become like that boss, break the chains of mundane salarymen life which im currently studying to become. Am in QUT, brisbane pursuing a Bacher in IT. I got such a diploma so a degree was a natural extension. I learn alot studying overseas, and its not just in the classrooms... Graduating in late '04, supposedly the time when Singapore is starting to pick up BUT i dont wanna go back.

Acoustic Energy Aego 2 I wouldn't have considered them if not for the price, about SGD$350 and its brand new.

dgps, Ho seh boh... wah 6:30 u awake liao ar...

Refering to Northern Oak's quote, I recall a guy who also raved about 1388's Bit88 and similarly, bought alot to add on to his already tokong ht... Bit88 was a DSP enhancing tube buffer stage thingy. Its like a MF X10D + volume control + headphone out + DSP minus MF's X series chio casing. Like subtle DSP within Microsoft's Media Player ... with tube sound?

By the way, Just bought a supposedly very high end british branded made-in-malaysia sub/sat system... Take a guess which ones? So finally i need interconnects liao...

If i recall i actually met DGPS once near his work place or rather an office he was at for a while... Too bad his dept is diff from my service field. Tee, You're a... towkay! Sounds like a boss to me, know everything so u know if everyone else is doing their work

I reccomend Deoxit the surface then apply several layers of progold. I remember Progold has 20% the cleaning power of deoxit.

Does it sound better than the RS-1? If i ever want a pair of RS-1s i only would buy used that has the original mahogany box...

Oh yes forgot to mention, i'm in Brisbane, Australia

I wish i could but I cant. A) Dont have the cable with me Dont have a headphone amp to plug the cable into What i can tell you though is based on my experience with the speaker cable. At $13/m i have not heard anything else sound so similar to OCOS in my stereo. It is tonally accurate, has respectable bass response and fast. In one word, accurate. If you like how Dynaudio speakers sound with OCOS cabling... that's the same characteristics DNM Reson has. Incidentally a friend diy-ed a pair of silver interconnects with similar design and topology, albeit with scotch tape. He likes it alot with tube output stage cd player but not Sony DVD S7000. Tee, Want more? Send me a porta corda and a pair of DNM Resons

Rameish, Yeah its the closest compromise than hard wiring. Have u tried DNM Reson interconnects? Should be pretty good as well around $100 for the non bullet version.

Actually the basis of my argument to use Eichmann bullets is if you are thinking of getting neutriks, but dont need very tough plugs, go for the eichmann. A very cheap alternative would be $0.70 ea plastic n steel ones. If its the stripped 89259 recipe, I personally would use the $2.5 ea nakamichi fakes from Koba Electronics 3rd Floor People's park Complex. Bear in mind the diameter of the two runs of stripped 89259 would be larger than the rca plug casing and some filing would be needed. I personally would chuck the casing and wrap the rca plug with plumber's tape (teflon)

Hmmm. *notes to self to get super tokong ht and stereo system before marriage* Well as for the sofa, im sure it'd bring much more fun and memories of past experiences of being on it than the projector * * I rememeber paying $58 for the Eichmann but im sure its more expensive now. Their company is in brisbane, maybe i oughta go take a look So sorry to hear about the lost ocos... I was the one who asked you to get from germany afterall

Those resistors could be changed to some 0.1% tolerance ones. The blue n red box shaped components are *i think* MKP bipolar caps. Good stuff. If you hard core. U'd hard wire As for batteries, i know Sanyo AAA & AA rechargeables are the longest lasting, or are the products in 9V arena different? I would at most change the electrolytic caps and wires. Pretty solid design. That's a real tiny alps pot!

(A) You have dynaudios. What sane economic threshold!? ( Yes Either OCOS or Super expensive cables. Your choice. Considering the price difference of the Neutriks and Eichmann bullets, the bullets are really that much money for that much sound. However, it is PITA to work with esp if you have larger gauge conductors (like shielded ground). It is also rather fragile but at least the cable dont get pulled around by the heavy Neutriks. It boils down to convenience versus sound, an age old modder's dilemma. I'm just glad to have shared this info with some people.

Though I never direct A/B, I definitely think its better than the GY107. This design isn't shielded and one must take caution never to position it near other cables esp power cords. However i believe the nature that it isn't shielded makes it more dynamic sounding. The sum of 4 parts of a cable makes up its sound. Here's my short misinformed guide on cables. I might not be correct so please correct me i AM wrong 1 - dielectric. The material next to the conductor is its dielectric The primary dielectric affects the sound the most. In a way more so than the conductor itself. That is because some of the worse material one should use is commonly found in commercial cables. An example would be PVC. It has a dielectric value of 5. The best dielectrics and their ratings in order are, vacuum(1), air(1.1), teflon(2.0), teflon derivatives(2.1-2.4?). Dielectrics act like capacitors, storing some energy as a signal passed the conductor it wraps around and releasing it slightly later. A good dielectric would store less and releases faster. One very common sound characteristic with thick PVC insulated copper wires would be its round mid bass. It could be simply be that the PVC insulation messes up the timing of the bass. Hence most DIY guys who want really high end cables makes their own with silver in teflon or soemtimes, no telon at all. 2 - Magnetic Fields When electricity passes through a conductor, a magnetic field is created surrounding the conductor. The size of this field depends on size of the current. If you have more than one conductor bunched together, they would affect each other's magnetic fields! Why is this important? When a conductor's magnetic field is distorted whilst transferring a signal from A to B. The signal received at B is also distorted. I'm not sure which aspect of the music will be affected, i think its the timing and dynamics. 3 - Connector RCA plugs are a neccesary evil but why Neutriks? They cost like what, $40? That's alot of money when you are talking about budget diy interconnects. If you want easy to use connectors then consider the lower cost Canare. I didn't compare Canare vs Neutriks in terms of sound but I'm thinking that someone who'd bother to make himself these interconnects are music lovers on a shoestring budget and of the $60, $40 goes to connectors! If you are indeed after sound, shoot for the Eichmann Bullet plugs. The cable with the best high fidelity reproduction and least signal loss i have ever made were pure silver ones with bullet plugs. This pair of cables happen to sound good immediately with soldered joints still too hot to touch. Having experimented with quite abit of cables, they all have this characteristic sound before 'burning in'. That is, harsh, sibilant, lacking in details and uncontrolled mid bass and maybe no low bass at all. Shouldn't these characteristics be more obvious in a new pair of SILVER interconnects? This made me conclude that a big portion of the burn in process is for the connectors. Why is this so? The common RCA plug from $2.5 black nakmichi knock offs i LOVE to the Neutriks are all hefty and full of metals. The eichmann is a tube of dense plastic with 2 copper nibs. Following the same sch of thought as Eichmann plug designs, I searched for one with the least amount of metals. I found a $0.70 all plastic rca connector with folded steel shield and conductor. These could well be the poor man's Eichmann. If you could bother, try making another stock 89259 with such connectors and compare. It should sound better than the neutriks. 4 - Geometry & Topography I have so far done 3 kinds of wire geometry designs used for single solid core cables. The most minimalistic is a parallel run held at equal distance away from one another by tape ALA DNM Reson design. Another is the tri braid design ALA Kimber KCAG. The third is simply twisting 2 runs together loosely but evenly. A fourth geometry is from IXOS. Very densely braided cables to ensure the crossing conductors are perpendicular to one another. This effectively cancels any magnetic field interference between the two crossing runs. Another thing is solid core or multistrand? The higher the frequency, the closer to the surface of the conductor the signal of such frequency travels on. I personally prefer single solid core designs as theorectically, such conductors would have less conductors for the signal to jump around. Another reason is that I've personally heard solid core cables have better bass than multistrand ones of higher gauge. 5 - Application If you are curious how the most transperant cable one could made from commonly available parts sound like, buy silver wire & teflon tubing from here and terminate em with Eichmann. Note i dont earn money from that guy, he sells silver wires pretty cheaply and is located in Singapore hence being the most cost effective silver wire dealer i know. 6 - Ironicities Despite spouting so much (seemingly) knowledge, the OCOS loudpeaker cable, a coaxial copper design when partnered with my previous speakers, dynaudios, sounded the best with better detail retrieval and had the most accurate tone. These were the best of the lot and this lot included skin effect reducing Goertz, solid core braided Kimber 8TC and so on. Its got something to do with the cable being impedance matched to dynaudio drivers. The combo is so good OCOS are almost a must with speakers that has dynaudio drivers. This goes tos show that there might be some other aspect about cables that aren't well known that affect the sound.

Mackie, Aiyah sayang! Never got the chance to lend you my silver interconnects Mackie, I suggest you make my version of the 89259 and review it along side the stock design. That is, if you are willing to spend the amount. After a bit of cabling fiddling i realise the stock 89259 has good tonal character but not worth the $8-9/m asking price. This recipe requires twice the amount of cable you need to make a desired length of interconnect. Only the inner conductor and foamed white insulation is used. 1) Strip off the outer FEP insulation and copper ground. 2) Twist 2 runs of inner foamed core and use each for hot and ground. 3) Listen. 4) Start converting stock 89259 ics into this design cos of the huge improvement.