theory_87 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2006 It doesn't allows you to export the songs from your player to another computer, just like the iPod. well, ipod can do it. i juz copy my frens ipod's collection to my com a few days ago.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aaron-xp 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2006 (edited) I believe you used a 3rd party software, right? Unless it is the shuffle you are talking about (it is UMS, right? Oops, again unsure). EDIT: Oh, it's rockboxed, that explains it... Edited September 17, 2006 by aaron-xp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute0 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2006 Perhaps we should give Microsoft a break. They are just trying to cover their own backside, to prevent record labels from suing them for facilitating piracy, which was probably the same reason Windows Media Player was big on DRM in the first place. They don't benefit from this much either, if you realise. I don't see such a huge backlash with Apple, although they don't even allow the transfer of music from the iPods to your computer at all, until the latest iTunes which only allow this with music purchased on their music store. If third party software (including rockbox) can allow iPod users to circumvent this limitation, I don't see why we can't do the same with the Zune. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aaron-xp 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2006 There will eventually be a work around using some third party application. Microsoft should know that, perhaps they want it, so as to improve their player's popularity, and yet avoid legal repecussion by releasing their own firmware which would infringe IP. Rockboxed Zune, anyone? On a side note though, I like Microsoft's design for the Zune, though the name is still rather lousy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aaron-xp 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2006 (edited) ' date='17 Sep 2006, 09:09 PM' post='79044'] Anyway, just for a laugh.. ON how great our ancestors were, are and currently thriving at : The Chinese are really a bunch of clever people.. Reverse engineering in one day! http://www.themp3players.com/archives/2006...une-got-cloned/ Ub3r 0wN@g3!! That's incredible... The speed at which they do it is almost unheard of. EDIT: Anyway, the MPF2110 did not "pwn" the Zune, it likes it... Edited September 17, 2006 by aaron-xp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theory_87 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2006 I believe you used a 3rd party software, right? Unless it is the shuffle you are talking about (it is UMS, right? Oops, again unsure). EDIT: Oh, it's rockboxed, that explains it... no.. my friend do not know what rockbox is so it default ipod fw. i enable show all hidden files and folder in windows explorer. a folder call ipod_control will be shown. enter it and and there is another folder call songs. in songs folders, there is alot of folder name f00, f01, etc. it contains all the songs and videos in there. but it rename. id tag still remain unchange. copy all to my itune folder on my com and drag them in to itunes. itunes auto rename them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theory_87 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2006 well... rockbox is not that easy to begin with. take a look and creative. they are popular too... but due to the chip inside, it hard to start rockbox coding. if microsoft decide to add security features to it, i think it might never get rockbox as it too tough to get even started... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razer 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2006 Somehow, the DRM thinggie makes me think of Jap handphones.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aaron-xp 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2006 (edited) Toshiba = Japanese Company = Zune manufacturer As for no.. my friend do not know what rockbox is so it default ipod fw. i enable show all hidden files and folder in windows explorer. a folder call ipod_control will be shown. enter it and and there is another folder call songs. in songs folders, there is alot of folder name f00, f01, etc. it contains all the songs and videos in there. but it rename. id tag still remain unchange. copy all to my itune folder on my com and drag them in to itunes. itunes auto rename them. rclxms.gif thumbup.gif I doubt many "normal" people can figure that out... Edited September 18, 2006 by aaron-xp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theory_87 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2006 Toshiba = Japanese Company = Zune manufacturer As for I doubt many "normal" people can figure that out... haha... people who study IT may know... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dle4e_2005 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2006 Sorry to dig this thread up... Zune is set to hit shelves on November the 14th and will retail for US$249.9 for the 30GB version http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2...labilityPR.mspx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xErTiNi 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2006 Is zune ex? i dun like the button design, still like ipod design... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aaron-xp 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2006 USD249, work that out. Should cost around that of the ipod. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theory_87 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2006 for every zune sold, MS is making a lost. i doubt MS can seriously threaten Apple position Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aaron-xp 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2006 But with a huge market share, they can buy in bulk and save a lot. Besides, I believe that they will eventually raise the price, be it in the current generation, or the next (if the Zune idea survives). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
