erickoh 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2003 Bought 2 Lisa Ono's CDs today... which had the label 'Copy Control CD' on it. To my dismay, I found that the CD wouldnt play on my portable player (iRiver IMP) It would skip after a few seconds of play on each track. I believe it is due to the electronic skip protection on the player (the ESP feature cannot be switched off) To get the CD to work on the PC, you will have to install and use their software CD player application. Using any other player will result in clicks thoughout each track. Needless to say, I'm quite pissed with it.. and will certainly avoid CDs with 'Copy Control' technology on them. To think that I bought these CDs and now I have to crack the protection and burn it on another CD so I can listen to it... makes me wonder why I didnt just download the tracks from kazaa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blues 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2003 is that the same as avex trax's copy protected? hm,.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sipher 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2003 those CDs cannot be played on PCDPs?? how about normal CDPs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firefox 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2003 those CDs cannot be played on PCDPs?? how about normal CDPs? They can be played on PCDP's as long as the players don't try and digitally rip the tracks. ie. use ESP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sipher 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2003 They can be played on PCDP's as long as the players don't try and digitally rip the tracks. ie. use ESP. That's no good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ablaze 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2003 thanks for the warning Eric! are these discs rippable with EAC? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rameish 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2003 The more people return the discs and ask for their money back the less we'll be pushed around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wortel 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2003 Thats just so lame. You need to crack it before your computer will read it huh? I've never encountered any discs like that. Take it back and tell them off. It's your disc you paid for the music what more do they want? May as well download it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evil-zen 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2003 well i'm not sure if you can return them since they did label that it is copy right protected. if you want to rip such cds, try CloneCD, rip as Audio CD, mount it using the virtual drive and extract using EAC. Worked for 1 of my cds but not the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adhoc 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2003 there are many sites out there that teach you how to get over this 'copy protection' look carefully at your disc. can you see two distinct tracks? something like 2 distinct 'darker' areas? if so, the outer one is the copy protection track. you can IIRC use a marker or sticky tape to cover part of the outer track, this renders it unreadable and so the player will only pay attention to the inner audio track. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rameish 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 Evil, my point exactly, copy protection should only function as copy protection and not render it unplayable in a PCDP (even with ESP switch on). Sometimes you have to pretend to be an average consumer. Here's the logic: If EMI starts getting returns on these and others then they will drop the idea hopfully. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erickoh 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 http://trinja.cryptek.org/robin/showBlog.p....php?BlogID=452 "EMI's Copy Control mechanism works by purposely introducing errors into the discs's physical surface, on the audio layer. The idea is that a standalone CD player will ignore the errors as it's playing, but a computer, which is far more sensitive to data integriy, will object to reading the audio portion of the data and will only be able to read a special data layer." "a digital, low quality WMA versions of the songs in a hidden data layer, which you have to play using their proprietary jukebox program." Tried to use EAC to rip the CD.. EAC reports no errors, but the clicks are present in the rip. As mentioned in the article above, a hidden data portion is indeed present, which presumably contains a wma version of the CD. I personally confirm that playing the CD using their software player gives a sucky version of the songs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N@Z 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 Let's all go back to vinyl! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tee 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 Sound very complicated.........i am a simple man.....just want music from simple sources like CDs or SACDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evil-zen 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2003 SACDs probably won't have such problems because it cant be played or ripped on a computer. Therefore companies won't bother to put copy right protection on it to prevent spreading via networks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites