av98m 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2004 (edited) SGH amp? Sign me up for one! edit: oops, didn't read the whole post carefully. in kit form I'm out, me lazy b*stard. Edited May 29, 2004 by av98m Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mackie 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2004 SGH amp? Sign me up for one! At this price, I think U will attain more than one with different casings for eye candy. kekeke...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
digi01 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2004 jason,I am very pleasure join in SGH forms.I think I can do someting for you.if you have a protel version projects. for a good step,CHA47 amps may be a good choice.we need choice a common pcb size to fit much of tins or sexy case.need setup some pcb stand-off holes on the boards.includeing volume pot. another ideas is hdam framework,that denote output chips part can add or remove easy.we need a 2pcb parts: standard comy+expanding A47 good luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lekguan 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2004 Considering this is an amp for people starting out, may I suggest a few points: The amp should be at its best value for money. What I'm suggesting is that stick to suggested components as much as possible, and consider from there, are all the "improved" components really worth it? In other words if an upgrade of 1-2 bucks only yield a little improvement, we should scrap that improvement. That way the amp's price can be kept low as well. At such a level, caps should be kept to cheaper ones(and of course smaller values ones, best if it does not differ too much from original design), and I believe an expensive input/output jack will not yield audible differences, etc... Of course some "sgheadphones" tweaks which make much sense out of cents are definitely good eh? Besides, cheaper components of a few cents mean that people won't mind blowing/burning a few since a replacement can be bought at a low price. When people start out, some are bound to fail, isn't it? Also, components (such as the input/output jacks) which are easier to solder on, e.g. solder wets more easily, should be considered first, to serve as an encouragement for beginners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mukegile 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2004 may I suggest that ; u put like.. *. Barebone (pcb and all necessary parts to build a working amps) *. Upgrade kit ( exotic parts, connector replacements and sorts for people to tweak ) *. Casing options (if u want to include ) btw, ..farnell do have discount for larger quantities 25+ , 100+ , 250+. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasonhanjk 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2004 (edited) Thanks Digi 01. I may not use Protel as I am more use to eagle. By the way, please comment when the PCB design is out. Had seen your masterpiece... Edited June 1, 2004 by jasonhanjk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasonhanjk 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2004 Hi Lekguan. Yes, this amp design would be value for money. As we are going to buy these item in bulk thus we can reduce the price further. The current price for a buffered Cmoy aka A47 would be targeted at $20 and it will be almost the same price if you buy the component individually. Especially it comes with a PCB so building it would be a breeze. One thing good about the Cmoy we are making is the begginer would make less mistake as it will be very easy. Instructions would be on this forum and a step by step would be included. Basically just insert the component as you are told. Another newbie just got problem on his newly built Cmoy on a proto board. http://www5.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=74034 Seems like he is having some virtual ground problem. I would try my best to design the PCB to it's best not allowing newbie blowing up a few things. Think of the frustation having to travel to places to get the parts. Lucky I work near SLS. If they really blow up a few resistor, I may give them replacement for free as it is only a few cents. The jacks I will need tp seek Tropical advise.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasonhanjk 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2004 Hi Mukegile. Yes, it will be a barebone. All neccesary parts for it to work. Batteries not included. No, adding an upgrade kit will further burden us as it will cost more and people may not buy. At the end we will lose money. But we can suggest how to upgrade. Good idea on the casing option. As these casing may need to be pre-drill by tropical, he may charge $15 to $20 on each casing. Why so expensive just buying the casing? As buying the casing will give you a final product, I need to ensure the pricing of the new amp doesn't destroy other amp builder business. Farnell film resistor can be bought at 3 to 5 cents. Tropical and firefox may like to hear this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N@Z 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2004 Do you have a targeted date for the introduction of your kit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasonhanjk 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2004 Make it August 31st, my country's national day. 3 months would be just nice, not too rush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tropicalrips 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2004 will we be including the op-amp in the kit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasonhanjk 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2004 Ya, but opa2132 cost $10 each... Pricey... So the $20 may only include 1 opamp and the rest may be purchase through upgrade. Still sourcing for cheaper. How OPA 2134 sound? It cost $5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tropicalrips 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2004 i can't really tell the difference in sound for 2134 & 2132 the NJM4556 is also another "good enough" op-amp for the cmoy, its also cheaper then the 2134 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasonhanjk 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2004 Will take note of that too. Now looking at tangent's preffered opamp. May buy a few of them do distortion analysis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mukegile 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 my opinion ;... let's use the 2134. .. only $4+ a piece....it wont hurt incase somebody melt it. , Share this post Link to post Share on other sites