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#121 dalethorn

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 04:04 AM

QUOTE(nekatrall @ 17 Jul 2012, 09:41 AM) View Post
i wonder how do they make the diff impedances on the drivers?


Very good question. The magnets and voice coils would be the same.
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#122 nekatrall

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 05:35 AM

could it be stronger magnets?
thicker coils?
addition of resistors?
current rig
(portable rig) cowon s9 + tf10, monoprice 8320
(portable amps) 18v cmoy, O2 amp

(home rig) thinkpad w520 > ssmh > headphones
custom mod headphones in beats body, pioneer se305, goldring dr150 (all 3 with interchangeable wires)
ath-es7 modded 18awg spc, skull candy aviators, creative aurvana live(denon ahd1001 modded), DT48A
with loads of diy wires

(clip on)
Ksc 75, em7, dunu cx 60-II

past love
d2 modded to d2+
fiio e11, a47 amp, creative usb x-fi 5.1
sf5p, tf10p + hand made mil-spec spc,meelec m9, ba200, CIEM (tf10+sf5p)(missing)

#123 dalethorn

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 12:01 PM

QUOTE(nekatrall @ 20 Jul 2012, 01:35 PM) View Post
could it be stronger magnets? thicker coils? addition of resistors?


No idea how they do it, but supposedly all impedances have to meet the DIN standard and I assume that means they have to sound the same. I have a feeling the drivers do all sound the same at least from 1974 on, but I think people way underestimate the influence of the earpads. The new oval earpads reduce the efficiency of the DT48 by many decibels compared to the original oval pads. You can hear the enormous difference by trying the round pads first then switch to the oval pads. The volume drops a lot!
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#124 nekatrall

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 08:51 PM

yup may be true impedance is just for eqpt differences

pads wise hard to obtain the super soft ones
current rig
(portable rig) cowon s9 + tf10, monoprice 8320
(portable amps) 18v cmoy, O2 amp

(home rig) thinkpad w520 > ssmh > headphones
custom mod headphones in beats body, pioneer se305, goldring dr150 (all 3 with interchangeable wires)
ath-es7 modded 18awg spc, skull candy aviators, creative aurvana live(denon ahd1001 modded), DT48A
with loads of diy wires

(clip on)
Ksc 75, em7, dunu cx 60-II

past love
d2 modded to d2+
fiio e11, a47 amp, creative usb x-fi 5.1
sf5p, tf10p + hand made mil-spec spc,meelec m9, ba200, CIEM (tf10+sf5p)(missing)

#125 dalethorn

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:47 AM

Just in case I didn't mention it to the other guys, if I could get what I want I would want to get the exact same oval pads they had in 1974, and then I would try out some simple EQ curves to suppress the midrange very slightly, which I think would result in better sound with less resonance than the current DT48 oval pads gives. That's because the DT48 has the best and clearest midrange tonality in the world.
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#126 nekatrall

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:50 AM

haha u can say that again dale
somehow i had to position it in a weird angle to get the drivers close to my ears
current rig
(portable rig) cowon s9 + tf10, monoprice 8320
(portable amps) 18v cmoy, O2 amp

(home rig) thinkpad w520 > ssmh > headphones
custom mod headphones in beats body, pioneer se305, goldring dr150 (all 3 with interchangeable wires)
ath-es7 modded 18awg spc, skull candy aviators, creative aurvana live(denon ahd1001 modded), DT48A
with loads of diy wires

(clip on)
Ksc 75, em7, dunu cx 60-II

past love
d2 modded to d2+
fiio e11, a47 amp, creative usb x-fi 5.1
sf5p, tf10p + hand made mil-spec spc,meelec m9, ba200, CIEM (tf10+sf5p)(missing)

#127 nekatrall

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:18 PM

listening to the dt880 (250ohm) it sounds like the dt48a but with more lows hahaha
txs maniacal71 for lending me the dt880

Edited by nekatrall, 24 July 2012 - 11:18 PM.

current rig
(portable rig) cowon s9 + tf10, monoprice 8320
(portable amps) 18v cmoy, O2 amp

(home rig) thinkpad w520 > ssmh > headphones
custom mod headphones in beats body, pioneer se305, goldring dr150 (all 3 with interchangeable wires)
ath-es7 modded 18awg spc, skull candy aviators, creative aurvana live(denon ahd1001 modded), DT48A
with loads of diy wires

(clip on)
Ksc 75, em7, dunu cx 60-II

past love
d2 modded to d2+
fiio e11, a47 amp, creative usb x-fi 5.1
sf5p, tf10p + hand made mil-spec spc,meelec m9, ba200, CIEM (tf10+sf5p)(missing)

#128 nekatrall

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 01:14 AM

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made 50ohm adaptors for my dt48a

soundstage increase
subbass present
details more prominent
current rig
(portable rig) cowon s9 + tf10, monoprice 8320
(portable amps) 18v cmoy, O2 amp

(home rig) thinkpad w520 > ssmh > headphones
custom mod headphones in beats body, pioneer se305, goldring dr150 (all 3 with interchangeable wires)
ath-es7 modded 18awg spc, skull candy aviators, creative aurvana live(denon ahd1001 modded), DT48A
with loads of diy wires

(clip on)
Ksc 75, em7, dunu cx 60-II

past love
d2 modded to d2+
fiio e11, a47 amp, creative usb x-fi 5.1
sf5p, tf10p + hand made mil-spec spc,meelec m9, ba200, CIEM (tf10+sf5p)(missing)

#129 nekatrall

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 10:08 PM

wooo gotten the dt48s/nagras

even more musical than dt48a
the drivers are really ahead of its time
current rig
(portable rig) cowon s9 + tf10, monoprice 8320
(portable amps) 18v cmoy, O2 amp

(home rig) thinkpad w520 > ssmh > headphones
custom mod headphones in beats body, pioneer se305, goldring dr150 (all 3 with interchangeable wires)
ath-es7 modded 18awg spc, skull candy aviators, creative aurvana live(denon ahd1001 modded), DT48A
with loads of diy wires

(clip on)
Ksc 75, em7, dunu cx 60-II

past love
d2 modded to d2+
fiio e11, a47 amp, creative usb x-fi 5.1
sf5p, tf10p + hand made mil-spec spc,meelec m9, ba200, CIEM (tf10+sf5p)(missing)

#130 Maniacal71

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 10:11 PM

QUOTE(nekatrall @ 30 Sep 2012, 10:08 PM) View Post

wooo gotten the dt48s/nagras

even more musical than dt48a
the drivers are really ahead of its time

Now you know, lol

#131 RhythmMaster

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 12:37 AM

As the title suggest best headphones it the world for me it has to be the STAX SR009 in my mind are the best I have heard with a woo audio wa22.

Edited by RhythmMaster, 04 October 2012 - 12:43 AM.


#132 dalethorn

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:55 AM

QUOTE(RhythmMaster @ 3 Oct 2012, 08:37 AM) View Post

As the title suggest best headphones it the world for me it has to be the STAX SR009 in my mind are the best I have heard with a woo audio wa22.


Click on the reviews here and read the review by 'Audiophath' where he mentions electrostatics. That's the key to understanding the world of DT-48. But I agree that the SR-009 wins on technicals. Unfortunately I was not able to find a more ideal earpad for my DT-48's, to get a smoother sound.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/2720...Headphones.html
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Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:20 AM

but ur comparing with stax with synergy on woo audio
im pairing my dt48s with all sorts of stuff,
well one thing u dont require an amp to run it
its neutral so any eq would achieve what ever sound want to achieve
and its portable too

and like the title suggest
mine is just the headphones

almost forgot it doesnt cost me thousands of bucks laugh.gif
current rig
(portable rig) cowon s9 + tf10, monoprice 8320
(portable amps) 18v cmoy, O2 amp

(home rig) thinkpad w520 > ssmh > headphones
custom mod headphones in beats body, pioneer se305, goldring dr150 (all 3 with interchangeable wires)
ath-es7 modded 18awg spc, skull candy aviators, creative aurvana live(denon ahd1001 modded), DT48A
with loads of diy wires

(clip on)
Ksc 75, em7, dunu cx 60-II

past love
d2 modded to d2+
fiio e11, a47 amp, creative usb x-fi 5.1
sf5p, tf10p + hand made mil-spec spc,meelec m9, ba200, CIEM (tf10+sf5p)(missing)

#134 dalethorn

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 03:22 AM

QUOTE(nekatrall @ 3 Oct 2012, 10:20 AM) View Post

but ur comparing with stax with synergy on woo audio
im pairing my dt48s with all sorts of stuff,
well one thing u dont require an amp to run it
its neutral so any eq would achieve what ever sound want to achieve
and its portable too
and like the title suggest
mine is just the headphones
almost forgot it doesnt cost me thousands of bucks laugh.gif


You can add to that the unusual driver like nothing else ever made since. In the world of large loudspeakers, there are electrostatics and there are some really advanced horn systems that are extremely efficient. I see the DT-48's as more like a high quality horn system, and you just can't understand the thrill of it until you've heard one properly set up (horn speakers, or DT-48 headphones).
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#135 dalethorn

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 10:35 PM

View Postdalethorn, on 27 October 2011 - 09:23 AM, said:

I was having a conversation earlier today, not so much about which specific headphone is best, but which design approach is best, and which headphones are the ultimate realization of those designs. Mostly the conversation came down to which is best: The most accurate or the most musical. I will have to leave that to other people to explain, since I've heard some examples of both approaches, and I don't have a firm opinion myself.


Now, 6 years and 160 headphone reviews later, I have some opinions. So far, I haven't heard a planar that can resolve high frequency harmonics anywhere near as well as the Sennheiser HD800. But today we have some hybrid designs, like the Final Audio Sonorous VI that has the large dynamc driver as well as a balanced armature. I don't know whether anyone is making a planar that also contains a small high-frequency driver.
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